To Fleece Purchase or Not to Fleece Purchase?
Well this is a good thread. Good for a few chuckles, that is. Long story short: this dude gets fed up with being rendered nearly homeless at Schneider, so he hatches a plan to lease-purchase a truck at Prime. Done laughing yet? :lol: Fast forward a few short months and he's back on skid row again, only this time with a truck payment. http://primedrivers.net/forum/index.php?topic=1417.0 Left the house on 7/23. That Friday $170.00+ in the hole. The following Friday $325.00+ in the hole. This past Friday out of the hole and just under $900.00 to the good. With what I ran this week I'll be lucky to clear $300.00. So for the four week period I'll have averaged around $250.00 pre tax take home per week. Now he seeks the wisdom of fellow suckers from of all places the internet: I really do want to know about others experiences with jacked up, can't be delivered legally loads at Prime. I'd also like to know who else turns the rule book into confetti in order to get a decent settlement? If you don't want to post it publically, then pm me. I'm not looking for evidence to run to the company with, and snitching people out isn't my style (not that I could tell anyone who any of you are to begin with) I'm just trying to get a picture of how wide spread a problem this is and how to approach it in my own circumstances. LOL, is this dude serious? What's that old poker saying? If you're sitting at a table and you don't know who the sucker is, then YOU'RE the sucker! :lol:

What ever happened to the net page that was a copy of the Prime contract? I had been to the site once or twice, but didnt book mark it. I couldnt get past the part where it said that they (Prime) would charge the leasee 17% interest if he went in the hole. :shock:

One would think (I realize that DWELLERS may have a handicap here), especially after the advent of all of this info being available on the net, that the aspiring DWELLER would research information before going INDENTURED SERVANT. GOD knows I tried for years but the do-gooders ran all over me. Until some portions of these poor souls come together and inform their representatives of these practices (require forming a lobby and donating huge sums of money) or come to the understanding that they are actually employees and proceed from there, the abuses will continue. Hell of a business plan for a carrier, practically free labor, free power and on constant call. I no longer feel sorry for them.

As one who not only survived a lease-purchase deal, but had a lucrative 11 year O/O stint, I have to wonder if those who tried it and failed were not tough enough, not smart enough or persistent enough? I know that some of the failures still are trying to justify their failures by trying to manufacture all kinds of crap about those who have made it. I have always said that trucking is not for everybody and being an O/O for even less. However, you can be one and you can do just fine. That I know for sure. As a matter of fact, it is an easier business than being a general contractor and I know that for sure too.

somebodies experiance 20 years ago as a mobil vagrent is irrelavent today.

Obviously, Ziggy, your trucking failures from 20 years ago seem relevant to you still, since you have not changed your song and dance routine one bit since then. You are still blaming outside forces for those failures. It is never easy to start and run a business and it is never easy to maintain it. Some are more capable than others, but those who have made it know who the real morons are. Frequently you have to hire them.

The only thing I failed at was seeing working so much for so little as being successful. Just because you see it as making it, doesn't mean others do. Surviving at dwelling is easy to do for a single person with no real bills, you might think you succeeded at it, but it's just your oppinion of things. Lots of rednecks living in doublewides share your veiw. Reality is the OOIDA poll of drivers showed the real story of what some people consider as making it, just because many career dwellers believe they are doing good, it doesn't translate into normal people thinking it's doing good.