and people want government health care

and people want government health care
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080731/ap_on_re_us/starvation_death_charges PHILADELPHIA - Four social workers were among nine people charged Thursday in the death of a disabled 14-year-old girl who authorities say wasted away from neglect before dying at 42 pounds. Danieal Kelly's mother was charged with murder; counts against other defendants range from involuntary manslaughter to perjury. District Attorney Lynne Abraham said any of the nine could have foreseen the horrific fate of Danieal, whose emaciated body was found in her mother's squalid house covered with bone-deep, maggot-infested bedsores in August 2006. best of luck to them when hospitals & nursing homes are staffed by government employee's who are union.

Of course, when you have no idea what's going on in the world, it's always good to blame the "government". Some moron will agree with you and you'll feel smart. Meanwhile, the free-market express continues to roll through town like a drunken psychopath, eating the weak and enriching the rich. . The good intensions of the government are corrupted by the people. Unlike some other countries we are a country of tribes from around the world. We aren't one united tribe and it's every man for himself and steal all we could, screw the other guy. It's just a fantasy of meadow muffins to think everyone is going to stick together for the greater good. People will put as little effort into their jobs as they think they can get away with and not feel the least bit guity about doing it, it's either screw the other guy or get screwed by the other guy because he ain't one of us, there ain't no us to start out with. For a short period of time after WW2 we where a united tribe because it was us against them in the big war, but within a generation it faded away.

Capitalism sucks. You have people worth $22 billion dollars...what is someone going to do with $22 billion dollars? What's the point of collecting $22 billion pieces of paper? How many houses, cars, boats do you really need? It's stupid when you think about it. People spend their whole lives collecting pieces of paper only to die and be worth nothing. And then pass on all the pieces of paper to their heirs who fight each other over it.

Company medical clinics are springing up at Toyota, Harrah's, Disney, and elsewhere -- and the savings are substantial When a company unveils a new plan to rein in health-care costs, workers usually groan. Yet Toyota Motor is getting rave reviews for the on-site medical center it built at its truck factory in San Antonio. Ask line worker Louis Aguillon. He went to the clinic in May with nagging back pain, and paid just $5 for the visit. "I saw the doctor for 20 minutes," Aguillon beams. "You're not just a number there." Toyota isn't running a charity. The medical center, which cost $9 million to build in 2007, could save the company many millions over the next decade. Managed by Take Care Health Systems, whose business is running medical clinics, the program has helped Toyota slash big-ticket medical items including referrals to highly paid specialists, emergency room visits, and the use of costly brand-name drugs. Plus, there are big productivity gains because workers don't have to leave the plant and drive to a doctor's office for routine medical matters. The company doctor is back. It's a tradition with roots in the 1800s, but the practice fell from grace in the 1930s and 1940s, when critics complained that the doctors were mainly serving the employers' interests. Many states passed laws requiring such medical centers to be owned by physicians. Even now there are calls for monitoring the clinics, to ensure they emphasize patient care over savings.

Capitalism sucks. We dont have Capitalism here, we never did!!!!

You have people worth $22 billion dollars...what is someone going to do with $22 billion dollars? What ever they want. It's their money, they earned it, why should the government get it with over taxation or the death tax?

What ever they want. It's their money, they earned it LOL you earned your money, they made theirs. There's a big difference. why should the government get it with over taxation or the death tax? I don't know....why is this question pertinent to the conversation?

why should the government get it with over taxation or the death tax? I don't know....why is this question pertinent to the conversation? Because you started off your post with "Capitalism sucks". Normally, when one espouses that sentiment, they feel one of the other systems that redistributes wealth is better.

Toyota isn't running a charity. The medical center, which cost $9 million to build in 2007, could save the company many millions over the next decade. Managed by Take Care Health Systems, whose business is running medical clinics, the program has helped Toyota slash big-ticket medical items including referrals to highly paid specialists, emergency room visits, and the use of costly brand-name drugs. Plus, there are big productivity gains because workers don't have to leave the plant and drive to a doctor's office for routine medical matters. Doesn't say anything about them hiring medical staff from their own privately funded medical schools, which in turn was attended by grads from their own private company K12 schools, nor using medical practices developed by their own private medical research laboratories. I guess they aren't so 'private' after all. Not to mention, this setup allows the company early detection of 'problem' employees, and gives them an early warning system on which employees are too 'expensive' to keep around, and 'appropriate cost cutting measures' can be taken.

LOL you earned your money, they made theirs. There's a big difference. Over 70% of wealthy inherited theirs. Even at that, most of the 'new' wealth is made off of some type of government funded enterprise. Take Cisco Systems, even Ralph Nader made a bundle off of that company. The Feds funded the founder's research at Stanford, then the government protectsd their invention through patent laws, followed by massive Federal contracts to implement their research on military systems, contracts worth literally 10's of billions. Then, the morons have the balls to turn around and whine about paying a little tax on their earnings, as if they are 'gettin screwed' ...

We dont have Capitalism here, we never did!!!! Absolutely true.

they feel one of the other systems that redistributes wealth is better. Slavery made a few people a lot of money, and it was certainly 'capitalism'; obviously there are 'other systems' that 'redistribute wealth' much better than boom and bust bubble schemes.

LOL you earned your money, they made theirs. There's a big difference. two choices, claim more of the revenue made off peoples labor by joining unions and squeezing a bigger cut of the action out of them or hope the government throws a few pennies at the peasants after bloated overhead costs for wealth redistribution. The only people that make out when the government steps in to make things fair are the people employed by the government. The peasants wages just drop to offset the bloated government costs so all people are doing is turning over more of their income to the government when their boss is free to cut their wages to make up for the higher taxes applied to him/her/it.

Over 70% of wealthy inherited theirs. Yes I realize that, tho our good friend Rockjockey has been brainwashed into the rag-to-riches, pull yourself up by your bootstraps Horatio Alger Rocky Balboa BS. For every 1 Warren Buffet, there's about 1,000 Neil Bush's among the upper crust. The point I was trying to make was that few of those people earn their money as in actually working for it. Mostly they just generate it by speculating or living off the interest. That's why all the Fed cares about is tackling inflation. Because when inflation goes up, the bankers and all the fat cats living off daddy's trust fund take a big hit. But wages are a big part of inflation so that's why they broke the unions and deregulated everything and shipping jobs offshore.

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